The one that I have with a couple of bends in the blade came from me chopping a couple branches off from a dead piece of tree many years ago. Vietnam | English (US) | (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. I have spent many hours cruising around here. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Buy It Now. This traditionally Original Price $91.34 2,684,911, 4,881,657 Although it was mainly used and marketed as a hunting knife, its origins were that of a weapon. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife is the best of the best when it comes to getting a great bowie knife on a budget. They come all sorts of ways. (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 (70% off), Sale Price 2,500,000 This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. It started my knife addiction. I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. For further info Google: "Bill Bagwell" or "Bagwell Bowie" Re: SOF magazine article c.1987 April issue, MySpace !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs"); Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. thank joe, Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. This Auction is for an Authentic Western Boulder U.S.A W49 "M" Bowie Knife w/Wooden Plaque - Circa 1840.1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. No the one I have is chrome plated. 2,370,466, 4,740,933 Blade edge is still quite sharp, and blade has been old period cleaned and is . 3,263,547, 4,662,315 Choose the options youd like for the order. That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. I have been trying for some time to compile dating info and as you probably know there are some gray areas. "Leather handled Bowie". i have had a western bowie for 30 years. (45% off), Sale Price 2,422,280 The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . Welcome and have a great stay lots to see and read around here. Made in the USA!!! Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. The one in the picture with the chrome plated blade came from a vet and I have the documentation and a photo of him wearing the knife in Vietnam. Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. Try contacting them via Messages to find out! It is guard marked: WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. That is really the one question I have about the knife. Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. They made several matching that description, but the most common I see are the 8" G46-8 or L46-8. 3.2 3.2 . (70% off), Sale Price $89.17 Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. 1978 was "B" and so on. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. Original Price $164.99 (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. The W49 is the most common found today. I am glad that I resisted the SOF mods back in the 80's. Shipping policies vary, but many of our sellers offer free shipping when you purchase from them. Canadianlisted.com, kijiji. (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. Its 11 and 3/8 inches full tang steel blade is sharp right out of the box and will come in handy when performing a wide variety of tasks. 899,015, 2,997,044 The one I have is chromed on the blade, crossguard and handle pins. Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. Original Price $289.00 I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. Its also home to a whole host of one-of-a-kind items made with love and extraordinary care. 1,516,995, 2,758,374 Charlie, how to identify a Vietnam Western Bowie Fighting Knife, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. They sharpen up like a razor and I need to make heavy duty sheaths for them. Top Rated Seller. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. $22.40, $28.00 The W49s did leave the factory with a high polish on them. (40% off), Sale Price 2,359,467 This would provide the best provenance to establishing the exact time periods for these variations on the Western W49 and 649 knifes. See the top reviewed local furniture stores and showrooms in Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy on Houzz. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. In his books, Cole called them the V44 Types 1,2,3,4 (Collins, CaseXX, Western, Kinfolks) and the type 5, the CaseXX Fixed blade V44. (15% off), Sale Price $84.99 1,912,315, 2,249,754 Thick edges annoy me. Original Price $297.22 I didn't really like it so I gave it to my brother. There are at least 4 more variations in knife markings and wooden handle type from then to 1977 when Western started date coding their knives on the blade. But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. And, especially thanks for posting it here! Buy now. Charlie, http://img11.No_outside_hosting.us/g/cblziwcgkkgrhqyokpme0un.jpg/. Your knife was made in 1986. Or am I missing something? This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. I'm confused. An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. Search 284 Tramonti di Sopra local furniture stores to find the best furniture and accessory company for your project. Consignment Program Packing Your Knives. I would stay away from those not marked "BOWIE" on the blade or cross guard. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams Powered by, Badges | Chrome is very hard and resist a lot of the normal scratching that would show on other knives. Original Price 2,339,655 Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. Original Price 4,186,946 Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. (20% off), Sale Price 2,370,466 Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. Jim Bowie, in his brief lifetime, was as famous as any American then drawing breath. This post is reserved to hold future oddballs/commemorative/special editions as they pop up in the future. Original Price 3,029,557 Boker 1969 Z28-Damast Liner Lock Knife Blue Aluminum (3.15" Damascus) MSRP: $594.95 Our Price: $446.21 Preorder Down Payment: $5.00 Add to Cart Vargo Knives Sobata 398 Frame Lock Knife Titanium (3" Satin Sintered Ti) Our Price: $225.00 Add to Cart Jake Hoback Perseverance Fixed Blade Knife Black G-10 (6.1" Stonewash) Our Price: $365.00 Add to Cart Let me know. Original Price 2,758,374 1,952,663, 3,550,296 I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. And the sales receipt is proof of age. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife $29.99 Gil Hibben Assault Tactical Knife With Sheath $77.99 Gil Hibben Highlander Bowie Damascus with Sheath $169.99 $116.98! (70% off), Sale Price $134.97 3,047,783, 4,063,793 Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! Sold. 1,435,714, 2,610,345 (25% off), Sale Price 1,218,966 Covert Knife. It is guard marked:WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. The next 3 versions of the Western Bowie are identical in material and construction. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. In fact in 20 years of service, was never given a Vietnam carried knife. One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. But you know that. I'd sure like to find one and would pay good money to acquire it. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the . A naive question, most probably - but, was this chroming ever done in-country? (30% off), Sale Price $123.74 Would be great for batoning as it had a very heavy blade of about 6 inches long. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. 1,056,736, 1,243,264 Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. Many a GI bought a Western model at the Base Exchange to use in Vietnam. Engraved on brass guard CON EVANS and on the other side of guard CHICO. The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . Original Price 2,460,591 com, usedvictoria.com are popular sites for selling items in Canada. sp 8 weighs a ton, if I wanted a field piece I would take the w49 over it ant day of the week. See the weather for Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, IT with the help of our live and local weather cameras. Thanks for all the information! However one cant say that such detailed information ever did exist on paper. Original Price 2,997,044 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. 2,500,000, 3,571,429 In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. Learn more. "Western" and "Coleman" are both brand names; which is it? Is that a bad thing that it is not a Western Knife but a Coleman instead? There are two variations of guard marked W49's. $134.97, $149.97 You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Originally designed by Col. James Bowie, a Bowie knife describes any large sheath knife. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY Vintage 14 1/2" Western W49 Bowie Knife with Sheath. I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Handle has the brass pins and rosewood handle. The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. The sheath for this knife is also unique in my opinion. You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. JavaScript is disabled. Who has the knowledge for this situation? remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). Western Bowie 1984. Great! Good news! Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. Original Price $169.99 But theres always the chance that more documents are yet to surface that will clear things up. Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. (10% off), Sale Price $148.00 Large WW11 Fighting knife with maker mark. I hope it helps? Can't see it in picture but blade in engraved with soldiers name and 69 - 70 Vietnam. It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. January 6, 2011 in EDGED WEAPONS, hi i want to get a vietnam western bowie knife, but not sure how to tell any differences if there is with them if anyone can help me it would be very helpful. Great! For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. Original Price $121.68 I cleaned them up and blued one of them for a more uniform patina. IMHO there are two problems here. I've been wanting a V44 pattern for years. Original Price $188.24 Thanks GIRLYmann! 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. Although it is not as pleasing to the eye as the wooden handled Western, it does have many of the same features as the V-44 pattern of old. That was interesting. Sale Price 1,775,148 Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. (20% off), Sale Price $36.50 We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. Original Price $28.00 Average depth of cut with a full swing was about a quarter inch. 2,359,467, 4,289,941 It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. Yea it is an old thread. This is a 1980s Western W-49 Bowie knife with rosewood and brass handle and tang valued at $160 to $200CAD. But I believe I can give you some good advice. Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? Bottom line if you want a western Bowie that was actully used in Vietnam you need good provinence on the knife. Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. There were variations of this pattern that were incorporated into air crew survival kits. I have handled about five Western Bowies that were used in Vietnam. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. 1978 was "B" and so on. hardwood handles,leather sheath. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:48 am, Post 1964 to late 1965/early 1966. zzyzzogeton, thanks so much for your reply. $184.50, $615.00 The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. 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